Is this Christianity?
Fundamentalist Baptist pastor, one time Presidential candidate, holder of several degrees from a diploma mill, Chuck Baldwin is calling for a modern day version of the American Revolution. Baldwin, a flag waving right-wing right-winger has little good to say about the current state of affairs in Wingnut Land.
The elections of 2008 (and the early elections of 2010) produced two significant phenomena: the “Ron Paul Revolution,” and the “Tea Party Movement.” And, mark it down: both of them will have profound effects upon the upcoming November elections–and upon the 2012 elections as well. Call them what you want, however, America doesn’t need another movement; it needs a genuine revolution.
The Tea Party movement, while still a force with which to be contended, has already been diluted and compromised. The primary elections plainly reveal the reality of this fact. The high spots so far are the defeats of Arlen Specter in Pennsylvania and Bob Bennett in Utah. The low spots so far are the reelection of John McCain in Arizona and the election of Dan Coats in Indiana.
John McCain’s election, in particular, demonstrates how many conservatives and “revolutionaries” still don’t get it. If any State in the union should have an up-close-and-personal look at what we are up against, it would be the people of Arizona. After all, they are on the front lines in the fight of one of the most important battles currently being waged in our country: illegal immigration. And John McCain is one of the worst offenders in terms of facilitating and encouraging this illegal invasion. Yet the people of Arizona reelected McCain to the US Senate. (It would interesting to know how many illegal aliens voted for McCain, would it not?)….
….Mark my words: Palin and Beck may see themselves as part of a conservative “movement,” but they want nothing to do with an old-fashioned, honest-to-God, Patrick Henry-style revolution. In fact, they are doing everything in their power to keep such a revolution from taking place….
…Fox News is not “fair and balanced.” It is as controlled and manipulated as any other media news network. The only thing it balances is the other networks’ infatuation with the Democrat Party, by promoting Republican candidates and ideas. What it does not do is educate and inform the American people with the truth as to what both major parties are doing to destroy our country. But remember, Fox News is owned by Keith Rupert Murdoch, the same man who helped finance Hillary Clinton’s campaign for the US Senate, and who is as much of a globalist as anyone in Washington, D.C., or New York City.
As an aside, and speaking of Hillary Rodham, I predict that she will replace Vice President Joe Biden BEFORE the 2012 elections. I’ve said that in private for many weeks, and now say it in this column–remember, you heard it here. The Clinton-Bush Crime Syndicate (CBCS) needs Hillary in the White House badly, and Obama has readily accepted a subservient role in the criminal affairs of CBCS (for very profitable reasons, no doubt). And with the CBCS bosses pretty much running things at the White House (they don’t worry about domestic or social issues, providing that these do not interfere with their international criminal activities), is it any wonder that Obama has already taken more vacations than most Presidents take during an entire term?
And it is the influence of globalists and neocons upon national and international politics that the likes of Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck simply do not get–or do not want to get. And because many Tea Partiers are so enamored with these two (and allow them to do much of their thinking for them), they remain clueless as well.
Ladies and gentlemen, America is in the throes of socialist and Marxist political upheaval. The curtain could fall at any time. The American people need to wake up to this truism: a “conservative” movement–even a conservative Tea Party movement–will not save us. The only thing that will save us is an old-fashioned State revolt…..
Baldwin ends his conspiracy laden missive with an all-to-common right-wing Christian preacher benediction:
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As Gary Burbank on 700WLW would say when doing his Deuteronomy Skaggs from the Little Radio Church of the White Winged Gospel Truth bit:
So reach into them jeans and pull out some greens
Don’t make me holler, don’t make me shout
Turn them pockets inside out
Keep them cards and letters coming
The North American Mission Board of the Southern Baptist Convention lists the following religions as cults:
While Catholicism is not on the list, Baptists are renowned for their hatred of Catholics. Many Baptist pastors consider Catholicism a cult.
What about Judaism? As always, God’s chosen people get a free pass. After all, the antichrist, the beast, and the false prophet have to have somebody to slaughter during the tribulation.
HT: Right Wing Watch
Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville Florida, in the news of late for their promotion of a Burn the Qur’an Day on September 11, 2010, has released a vile, racist, irrational, video that exposes them for who and what they really are. I am sure they make Dr Laura proud.
Judge for yourself.
Jack Schaap is pastor of First Baptist Church in Hammond, Indiana.Thousands of people call First Baptist their Church home. The previous pastor was famed fundamentalist crazy man Jack Hyles. Hyles required women who wore pants to Church to wear a paper dress over their clothing. (I kid you not) Schaap is married to Jack Hyles’s daughter.
Let me summarize Schaap’s view:
God made women to sexually tempt men. Men are hapless, helpless beings who, at the slightest show of any skin by a women, get an immediate erection and do irresponsible things like lust, commit adultery and fornication, sleep with their secretary (As Jack Hyles did) and sleep with girls in the youth group and women in the Church. (As David Hyles did). Whose fault is this? THE WOMEN.
Here is, by the way, a list of men associated with Jack Hyles, Jack Schaap and Hyles Anderson College, who have been accused, charged, and convicted of sexual crimes.No Independent Baptist should utter ONE word about the Catholic priest sex scandal until they clean up their own cesspool of vile behaviour.
Could Glenn Beck be the Antichrist? From my study of end-times prophecy I think it could be true!!! Millions follow after him. Millions of Christians ignore his Mormon faith and embrace him as brother. He promises a New America, A restored America. Stay tuned, he could be The One!
Will you stand with me brothers and sisters and refuse the mark of the beast? Refuse to drink the Tea of damnation?
Choose you this day whom you will serve…….Glenn Beck or Freedom.
From an chain email sent out by Christian spammers:
Have you ever been just sitting there and all of a sudden you feel like doing something nice for someone you care for? THAT’S GOD talking to you through the Holy Spirit.
Have you ever been down and out and nobody seems to be around for you to talk to? THAT’S GOD wanting you to talk to Him.Have you ever received something wonderful that you didn’t even ask for, like money in the mail, a debt that had mysteriously been cleared, or a coupon to a department store where you had just seen something you needed, but couldn’t afford? THAT’S GOD knowing the desires of your heart.
Have you ever been in a situation and you had no clue how it was going to get better, how the hurting would stop, how the pain would ease, but now you look back on it . .. THAT’S GOD passing us through tribulation to see a brighter day.
You see it really is all about God, right?
Here’s to hoping the God who knows the desires of my heart heard my utterance about me wanting the Reds to win the World Series. Oh, and the Bengals winning the Super Bowl. Oh, and why God is in the desire granting mood, how about a pain-free night.
God and I are not on talking terms. He doesn’t talk to me and I don’t talk to him. The Reds will win the World Series if they play better than everyone else, Same for the Bengals and the Super Bowl. Concerning a pain-free night. It not going to happen, ever. So I thank the pharmaceutical company for narcotics. I give credit to whom credit is due. God? He’s on vacation.
Our culture thinks you are a “loser” if you don’t go to college…parents are embarrassed if their kids don’t go…we borrow tons of money so that our kids can run off to Sodom & Gomorrah with a credit card? What for? Sure, there are careers that require a higher education, but let’s face it – most of us don’t use the degree we earned.
So – why all the emphasis on college?
One brilliant commenter replied:
I totally agree. Christian children should be encouraged NOT to go to college. The culture of drinking etc etc is overwhelming for most teens.
I believe the Mormons have it right. Right after high school, get out of the country for 2 years. Spend 2 years in missions. Learn a new language and culture. Tell others about Christ. Learn about giving and forget about taking.
After 2 years, come back to the US with a new appreciation and maturity and a real accomplishment on your resume!
This little exchange illustrates an opinion that is very common in fundamentalist Christian circles.
I subscribed to this way of thinking for many years. Keep your children away from the world at all costs, the thinking goes. The result? Children who are not prepared to face the real world, a world where Mom and Dad aren’t there to protect them .
College is a good place for children to learn about the world. Steve Noble seems to think there is no alternative to sending kids off to live in a dorm. Has he ever heard of commuting? My youngest daughter will graduate from NW State Community College in the spring. She commutes. She plans to go to a public university, There are four of them within 50 miles of our home. There are also several private colleges within driving distance of our home.
I too have my concerns to about a child of mine living in a dorm. Is the answer to tell my daughter not to get an education? Of course not. We found a middle ground, a way that she can get a good education, and we as her parents can feel good about her safety.
As far as drinking, sex, pornography, homosexuality, and all the other things fundamentalist parents fear about private university dorm living………I was exposed to all these things at a fundamentalist Baptist college. Every year students were expelled for “sinful” behavior.
Message to fundamentalist parents:
Your children are not safe anywhere. You need to teach them to navigate the rough seas of the real world. Part of the lesson is allowing them to be exposed to the world. I understand your fears. Every time my children get behind the wheel of a car, go out on a date, or go somewhere where I don’t have control, I am anxious and concerned. But, I also know my kids have got a good head on their shoulders. They are not easily led astray. And they know……….Dad is there when they need him. In their lingo…….I’ve got their back.
Not knowing is a fundamentalist’s worst nightmare.
The fundamentalist Christian is certain the bible is THE truth, thus everything the Bible teaches is to be believed and theoretically obeyed.
This view can easily, and readily be dispatched by showing that that no Christian actually believes and practices all of the Bible. I repeat, NO CHRISTIAN. When challenged on the truth of this the Christian will attempt to explain away their inconsistencies by appealing to “no one is perfect” or some nifty hermeneutical trickery that allows them to not practice all of the Bible.
Part of my extended family are know-it-all Christians. They have the King James Bible. which is the inerrant, inspired Word of God. It tells them everything they need to know.
Let me illustrate this with a short discussion that took place on Facebook.
A member of my family posted:
“I don’t understand religion when it gets to the point where the beyond commands the present, because then the present doesn’t have any sense. In Spain it is a big fear, a bummer, our mortality. Myself, i really need to know and face mortality: i am this, i am me, i am now. The rest, I don’t know. and that’s the point -… to be okay with not knowing.” Javier Bardem in Elle Magazine
One member of my family said:
That dude was awesome in No Country For Old Men!
And then the fun begins
The Fundamentalist Baptist Evangelist’s wife said:
That is one of the saddest statements I have ever read. You CAN KNOW…its all in the Bible!”
The agnostic, former Baptist Preacher of 25 years said :
Arrogance says “I know”. Wisdom and humility says “I don’t know.” Accepting the Bible as truth is a “faith” claim, which is fine for those who want to believe the Bible. No one can know that what the Bibles says is true. They believe it… is true by faith. No one can “prove” there is a God, a heaven, or a hell. (empirical proof)
That’s why I like this quote. It encourages us to focus on the here and now and reminds us that we are mortal and we are going to die. To paraphrase the one Christian ditty “only one life twill soon be past only what’s done today will matter.” Live life to the fullest today. It is the only one you have.
Then the I am going to be a preacher wife someday extended family member said:
It must be tuff (sic) to be against God and the Bible.Not a place I would want to be.
This little Facebook discussion aptly describes the current state of affairs for my wife and I with my wife’s extended family. They have destroyed the family relationship because they can not see beyond their fundamentalist religious beliefs. In their world everyone is either on their side or an enemy of God. Either you believe like they do or you are wrong, and most likely headed for hell.
Keep in mind the the evangelist’s wife and the future preacher wife have NEVER talked to my wife or I about the reasons why we left the Christian faith. Never. Not one time. In fact, 2 years after THE letter, not one family member on my wife’s side has said one word to us about our leaving the Christian faith. No attempt has been made to understand our decision.
Instead, they gossip behind our backs. They scour Facebook for offending comments and posts and then share them with my wife’s elderly parents. (who are not on the internet) They “pray” for us but that’s just another way of saying “we know you are wrong and we are asking God to help you see the light.”
What my wife’s family has shown is that the only thing that matters to them, the only reason for their existence is Jesus. Relationships that don’t lead to Jesus don’t matter. In other words. we have become collateral damage in their quest to be true to Jesus.
Yet, our extended family will be surprised when they don’t see us for the holidays. I am sure my in-laws will make some excuse for us. After all, having someone in the family who is sick makes for a great excuse. “They wanted to be here but Bruce has been so sick lately”. The real truth is, we are tired of everything being about religion and for me personally the ugliness of it does make me sick. The undercurrent, the overtones, and subtle one liners all add to the difficulties I already have.
The future preacher wife suggests that I am in a tuff (sic) place:
My wife’s family believes that their version of God it THE God and that their interpretation of the Bible is THE truth. It is their version of God we reject and their interpretation of the Bible we reject.
Yet, they are almost as atheistic as we are.
An atheist is just somebody who feels about Yahweh the way any decent Christian feels about Thor or Baal or the golden calf. As has been said before, we are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
My wife’s family would not be satisfied if we became moderate, progressive or liberal Christians. They would not be satisfied if we became Hindu or worshipped one of the many other Gods. No, it is their God and their truth or nothing.
The tale I write here is not unique. Most people who defect from fundamentalist Christianity go through similar problems. When you are a part of a family that is so vested in one truth it is hard for any defection to amiable.
One truth that seems to evade many fundamentalist Christian family members is that we don’t NEED them in our lives. We want to have a relationship with them. We want to know how their lives are, how their kids are. We want to have a relationship that transcends religion. We want to……….but we don’t need to. At this point in our lives we still work real hard to keep a relationship with my wife’s parents. That’s important. It is very hard to do sometimes, but we keep working at it.
The rest of the family? Keep your religion to yourself. If you can’t or won’t do that then we are not interested in have any further relationship with you. We can become like so many other families fractured by narrow-minded religious bigotry………see you at funerals.
One thing for certain we will all share as family members whether we want to or not……..death. 25 years from now, and 50 predictions gone wrong about the end of the world later, many family members will be but distant memories from the past. It will be too bad that conflict over religion will dominate the memories. I want to be remembered for more than just the “preacher who became an atheist and ruined his life.” Yes, I was a preacher, and a good one, for a long, long time. Yes, I am no longer a preacher. Yes, I don’t believe in the Christian god. Yes, I don’t believe the Christian Bible to be truth.
And Yes, I am a decent, kind person who loves his wife of 32 years, his six children and his grandchildren. I am a person that has much to offer the the world and the family. It grieves me greatly that my life has been reduced by some to whether or not I believe a certain, narrow, and defined set of religious propositions.
We can’t do anything to change this. We don’t evangelize and the other side of the family can’t not evangelize. They are under orders from God to hunt down the enemy and slay them. (metaphorically speaking) All my wife and I want to do is have some form of family relationship where religion is not front and center in everything.
I should make it clear that I do not speak for my children, any of them. They are free to be who and whatever they want to be. They are free to have whatever relationship they want to have with family. I am happy if they are happy. I do speak for my wife to the degree that we commonly share the feelings and beliefs I have expressed in this post. She too is free, free to be who and whatever she wants to be. If she is happy, I am happy.
It’s Friday. Time for a mental health break from religion and politics. I took a stroll through our back yard this afternoon. Fall is sneaking up on us. I found lots of busy insects. While things are starting to have that end of summer look, I still found lots of color.
Count me as one those agnostics that still finds wonder in the natural world around him. The beauty is astounding.
The gourds have been harvested. Now what do we do?
Been trying to catch this guy all summer. Not a perfect picture but I’ll take it. Perfect is having set the shutter speed at a faster speed so the wings would have been captured perfectly. He surprised me, so I just shot. Took three quick frames. This is the only one that was not a blur.
Thank you for posing.
And you too!
And last, thank you for holding still so I could take your picture during the few moments you will be alive on this earth.